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	<title>Comments on: Bill Clinton: Not What I Expected</title>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiovalleypolitics.com/2008/02/18/bill-clinton-not-what-i-expected/comment-page-1/#comment-657</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NCLB was actually one of his main topics. He said several times that it needed changed and that the logic behind awarding money to schools was deeply flawed. It doesn&#039;t make sense to take money away from under performing schools and then expect them to get better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NCLB was actually one of his main topics. He said several times that it needed changed and that the logic behind awarding money to schools was deeply flawed. It doesn&#8217;t make sense to take money away from under performing schools and then expect them to get better.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiovalleypolitics.com/2008/02/18/bill-clinton-not-what-i-expected/comment-page-1/#comment-653</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What did he say (anything serious) about NCLB? My understanding is that it&#039;s essentially the Goals 2000 program he proposed while in office. 

I have specific opinions about NCLB, based on the fact that my wife is a special education teacher. Our state has done a lousy job of implementing the program. From what I&#039;ve read in other states, I&#039;m not sure anyone has done a good job.

I&#039;m curious of any direct comments about the program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did he say (anything serious) about NCLB? My understanding is that it&#8217;s essentially the Goals 2000 program he proposed while in office. </p>
<p>I have specific opinions about NCLB, based on the fact that my wife is a special education teacher. Our state has done a lousy job of implementing the program. From what I&#8217;ve read in other states, I&#8217;m not sure anyone has done a good job.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious of any direct comments about the program.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill:
Since audio is up elsewhere I owe you a joke. 

When talking about reforming NCLB he said it was his only guaranteed appluase everywhere he went. He said they could drop him from a helicopter in Idaho, 200 miles from the nearest Democrat, and the elk would cheer. 

He also talked about a gap in healthcare coverage that he called the doughnut hole. He went on to say that he hated that the only guilt-free part of a doughnut was slandered like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill:<br />
Since audio is up elsewhere I owe you a joke. </p>
<p>When talking about reforming NCLB he said it was his only guaranteed appluase everywhere he went. He said they could drop him from a helicopter in Idaho, 200 miles from the nearest Democrat, and the elk would cheer. </p>
<p>He also talked about a gap in healthcare coverage that he called the doughnut hole. He went on to say that he hated that the only guilt-free part of a doughnut was slandered like that.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for pointing that out, my recordings were barely understandable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for pointing that out, my recordings were barely understandable.</p>
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		<title>By: Ohio Valley Politics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Outside The Marietta Bill Clinton Event</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohio Valley Politics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Outside The Marietta Bill Clinton Event</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Holywriter</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Holywriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you go to http://mariettaregister.com, we have audio of the event available free for download.

I&#039;m voting for Obama myself, but I was in the press pool at the event and enjoyed it, except for the Clinton campaign press people. They were not too friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you go to <a href="http://mariettaregister.com" rel="nofollow">http://mariettaregister.com</a>, we have audio of the event available free for download.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m voting for Obama myself, but I was in the press pool at the event and enjoyed it, except for the Clinton campaign press people. They were not too friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiovalleypolitics.com/2008/02/18/bill-clinton-not-what-i-expected/comment-page-1/#comment-643</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t think Biden&#039;s remark was anything bad either. I found it funny how people took a compliment like that and turned it into some kind of huge racial faux pas. I failed to put it in context, but I viewed this more as vindication for Biden than anything.

My general opinion of Clinton&#039;s speech was positive, I only meant to point out that those two things worked against him somewhat. That also applies more to the impression that I read from the crowd more than my own impression. I noticed a lot of people gathering their stuff and trying to stretch towards the end of the speech. I will say that I&#039;m still sore from those narrow bleacher seats though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t think Biden&#8217;s remark was anything bad either. I found it funny how people took a compliment like that and turned it into some kind of huge racial faux pas. I failed to put it in context, but I viewed this more as vindication for Biden than anything.</p>
<p>My general opinion of Clinton&#8217;s speech was positive, I only meant to point out that those two things worked against him somewhat. That also applies more to the impression that I read from the crowd more than my own impression. I noticed a lot of people gathering their stuff and trying to stretch towards the end of the speech. I will say that I&#8217;m still sore from those narrow bleacher seats though.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiovalleypolitics.com/2008/02/18/bill-clinton-not-what-i-expected/comment-page-1/#comment-642</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa:
Sorry you didn&#039;t get in. I heard the cut off point for the Marietta venue was around 1,700, so it was probably larger.

Bill:
I actually have (low quality, but mostly understandable) audio of the speech, but can&#039;t get it to upload on my dial-up without timing out. I&#039;m going to go back through and try to get some clips up until I figure out a way to get the whole speech uploaded.

As for Strickland, he seemed fine. He even stood up through most of Bill&#039;s speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa:<br />
Sorry you didn&#8217;t get in. I heard the cut off point for the Marietta venue was around 1,700, so it was probably larger.</p>
<p>Bill:<br />
I actually have (low quality, but mostly understandable) audio of the speech, but can&#8217;t get it to upload on my dial-up without timing out. I&#8217;m going to go back through and try to get some clips up until I figure out a way to get the whole speech uploaded.</p>
<p>As for Strickland, he seemed fine. He even stood up through most of Bill&#8217;s speech.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you got in. Seems like Pres. Clinton has toned down his anti-Obama rhetoric in the last several days. In regards to &quot;articulate&quot;, I looked up the word to make sure I understood the definition. Basically, it means to &quot;express or state clearly&quot;. In that light, I think both candidates articulate very well.

The difference is in the tone. I think when Biden said it, he said it as a surprise or in a demeaning manner (as if to say Obama could articulate well, but nothing else). Here, Garrison obviously meant it as a compliment.

Which brings the point that there will be A LOT of slips of the tongue this yer, we&#039;re going to have to live with a lot. And my preference is to look over a lot. 

Bill Clinton is also one who articulates well. He&#039;s very astute politically and knows how to get his message across. I&#039;m not surprised that you didn&#039;t come out hating him. In fact, had his speech been earlier in the day and a little shorter, you may have even been more positive.

(Remember, I&#039;m a self-described conservative saying these things. If I can be that nice about the former president, how can liberals NOT like the guy?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you got in. Seems like Pres. Clinton has toned down his anti-Obama rhetoric in the last several days. In regards to &#8220;articulate&#8221;, I looked up the word to make sure I understood the definition. Basically, it means to &#8220;express or state clearly&#8221;. In that light, I think both candidates articulate very well.</p>
<p>The difference is in the tone. I think when Biden said it, he said it as a surprise or in a demeaning manner (as if to say Obama could articulate well, but nothing else). Here, Garrison obviously meant it as a compliment.</p>
<p>Which brings the point that there will be A LOT of slips of the tongue this yer, we&#8217;re going to have to live with a lot. And my preference is to look over a lot. </p>
<p>Bill Clinton is also one who articulates well. He&#8217;s very astute politically and knows how to get his message across. I&#8217;m not surprised that you didn&#8217;t come out hating him. In fact, had his speech been earlier in the day and a little shorter, you may have even been more positive.</p>
<p>(Remember, I&#8217;m a self-described conservative saying these things. If I can be that nice about the former president, how can liberals NOT like the guy?)</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Sloat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Sloat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David --

How about one of the jokes?  Or humor lines?  I&#039;m glad you got to see him.  There were reports around yesterday that Gov. Strickland was shaking or something on TV.  Did he look sick or anything, flu?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David &#8211;</p>
<p>How about one of the jokes?  Or humor lines?  I&#8217;m glad you got to see him.  There were reports around yesterday that Gov. Strickland was shaking or something on TV.  Did he look sick or anything, flu?</p>
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		<title>By: LisaRenee</title>
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		<dc:creator>LisaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you got in, here in Toledo earlier in the day there were reportedly over 750 inside to hear the former President speak and quite a few who did not get inside, including me.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you got in, here in Toledo earlier in the day there were reportedly over 750 inside to hear the former President speak and quite a few who did not get inside, including me.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.ohiovalleypolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: 'Roots News: Cleveland Obama organizing event, 2/17/08 &#124; Writes Like She Talks</title>
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		<dc:creator>'Roots News: Cleveland Obama organizing event, 2/17/08 &#124; Writes Like She Talks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But David, David! If you didn&#039;t come away hating him, as you expected, what DID you come away feeling for him? Don&#039;t leave us hanging! Or, worse yet - speculating! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But David, David! If you didn&#8217;t come away hating him, as you expected, what DID you come away feeling for him? Don&#8217;t leave us hanging! Or, worse yet &#8211; speculating! <img src='http://www.ohiovalleypolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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